Discussion:
Races, Tribes and other ethnicities
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Steve Hayes
2025-01-15 04:30:55 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.

Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.

Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
My ex'es lineage includes a couple that moved from South Carolina to the
Texas panhandle in stages through the decade of "the trail of tears".
The assumption among family historians was that the wife was Cherokee,
but there is no hint of links to the tribal rolls. He probably didn't
see any advantage to it. since he was quite successful. "He arrived in
the (TX) panhandle with a wagon and the oxen that pulled it, and by the
time he died, he owned 29 3/4 sections of range land. He never spent
money on anything but buying land and expanding his cattle herd."
We loved the story, but we never felt any pull towards claiming benefits
from Indian heritage. Except for my niece, who put a 1/16th native blood
on her college application - she needed all the scholarships she could
find.
My daughter, on the other hand, noted on her application that she was
(1) a Daughter of the American Revolution through her mother (descended
from John Alden of the Mayflower) and (2) the child of an immigrant
through me. Just for fun. She is of course also a dual national from
birth and has lived abroad 3 times. (A year at age 5, a year at age 16,
and recently 6 months at age 36.)
This mythical "probably a bit of Cherokee" is quite common in the
Texas/Oklahoma borderlands, and I don't hold it against anyone.
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186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-15 05:49:00 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
http://youtu.be/t9xTXZwnJUk
Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.
Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
tribe be Purified !" :-)
D
2025-01-15 09:12:24 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
http://youtu.be/t9xTXZwnJUk
Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.
Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
tribe be Purified !" :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
The Natural Philosopher
2025-01-15 10:53:45 UTC
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Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?

Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.

I'd run that fer sure!
--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman
D
2025-01-15 17:55:06 UTC
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Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?
Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.
I'd run that fer sure!
You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!
The Natural Philosopher
2025-01-15 18:28:31 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?
Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.
I'd run that fer sure!
You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!
Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
older than a very old thing stops me....
--
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the
other is to refuse to believe what is true.”

—Soren Kierkegaard
D
2025-01-15 21:16:48 UTC
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Post by D
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?
Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.
I'd run that fer sure!
You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!
Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
older than a very old thing stops me....
Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't you?
So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the genes
that regulate that!!
The Natural Philosopher
2025-01-16 10:21:15 UTC
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Post by D
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?
Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.
I'd run that fer sure!
You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see
it happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT
events. Brilliant!
Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and
am older than a very old thing stops me....
Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't
you? So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the
genes that regulate that!!
True! All I need to do is self identify as an 18 yr old Cherokee squaw
and there you are, I am one!
--
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal
D
2025-01-16 16:05:07 UTC
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Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Post by The Natural Philosopher
Post by D
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
More RedSkin that RedHat?
Cursor like a tomahawk etc.
Menus written on 3D parchment.
Totem pole menus.
I'd run that fer sure!
You are a born marketeer! Redskin Linux Cherokee, I can already see it
happening! Indians giving away feather headdresses during IT events.
Brilliant!
Dang. Only the fact that I have certifiably zero red indian blood and am
older than a very old thing stops me....
Tsss... just a matter of definition! You have 2 legs and 2 eyes don't you?
So do the indians, so you are already closely related through the genes
that regulate that!!
True! All I need to do is self identify as an 18 yr old Cherokee squaw and
there you are, I am one!
You've got it! Welcome to the global leftist association! ;)
186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-16 05:11:51 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
On Wed, 15 Jan 2025 02:33:04 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen
Blacks are fortunate there is no tribal structure. The Indians are quite
picky about who gets on the tribal roll. That's especially true if the
tribe has a casino or some other benefits to being a recognized member.
Elizabeth Warren didn't qualify.
http://youtu.be/t9xTXZwnJUk
Today that video would get Cher dragged down Main Street behind the horse
for so many different reasons. Cher claimed to be 1/16th Cherokee but I
think she backed down later. My ex also claims to have Cherokee ancestry
and I humor her. Many make similar claims and somehow it's always
Chreokee. Personally I am 0%; no tribal money for me.
Blacks have tribes. Whites have tribes. All kinds of people have
tribes, in some places, if not others.
Even Linux fans have tribes: debian, Red Hat, BSD and what-not.
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution' :-)

Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
D
2025-01-16 15:52:36 UTC
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Post by D
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution' :-)
Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
Interesting! Was she very beautiful?
186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-17 06:19:02 UTC
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Post by D
Post by D
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)
 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
Interesting! Was she very beautiful?
Quite.

But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
remember her as she was.
D
2025-01-17 09:49:21 UTC
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Post by D
Post by D
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)
 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
Interesting! Was she very beautiful?
Quite.
But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
remember her as she was.
Time is cruel! =(
186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-18 03:51:19 UTC
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Post by D
Post by D
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)
 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
Interesting! Was she very beautiful?
 Quite.
 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.
Time is cruel! =(
Somebody should fix that.
The Natural Philosopher
2025-01-18 10:46:39 UTC
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Post by D
 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.
Time is cruel! =(
  Somebody should fix that.
They should make a ;was against it. It's socially UNJUST! Woo!
--
“It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.”

Thomas Sowell
D
2025-01-18 10:51:37 UTC
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Post by D
Post by D
Post by D
 Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
 to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
 tribe be Purified !"  :-)
Do the cherokee have a linux distribution?
 I knew a Cherokee girl who was fond of 'distribution'  :-)
 Surprised their tribe didn't out-populate all others ...
Interesting! Was she very beautiful?
 Quite.
 But that was a LONG time ago - probably fat
 and grey and dumpy by now. I prefer to
 remember her as she was.
Time is cruel! =(
Somebody should fix that.
If you don't mind a bit of animated movies, I recommend the first season
of the series Pantheon which among other things, explores that theme. The
second season is becoming a bit too emotional for me, but we'll see if it
improves.

The Natural Philosopher
2025-01-15 10:51:52 UTC
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Post by ***@ud0s4.net
Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
  to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
  tribe be Purified !"  🙂
Already happening.
--
I would rather have questions that cannot be answered...
...than to have answers that cannot be questioned

Richard Feynman
186282@ud0s4.net
2025-01-16 04:17:41 UTC
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Post by ***@ud0s4.net
Next it'll be "An apparition of Lord Linus came
   to me on the toilet and demanded that the Deb
   tribe be Purified !"  🙂
Already happening.
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